In March 2025, Stefan from Better With Age invited Norwegian MS-advocate and indoor rower Torbjørn “Tobben” Laundal to talk about MS, losing a lot of weight, and why he still rows 10k every day on a Concept2. This page makes that video easier to find – and connects it to Torbjørn’s own channel.
▶️ Watch the interview on YouTube (Better With Age) 📺 Visit Torbjørn’s YouTube channel (Row4MS)
Torbjørn was diagnosed with MS back in 2008/2009, but he didn’t let the diagnosis define him. In the conversation with Stefan he explains that movement became his way of staying functional: if he trains early, he gets more hours of real energy during the day. That’s why he often says: “do the most important thing first.”
Like a lot of Norwegians, he was inspired by strong rowers – and ended up on a Concept2. Rowing gave him what he needed: full-body work, low impact, and something he could do at home every single day regardless of weather. Over time, short sessions became 10k sessions – and then a daily habit.
A big part of the interview is about weight. Torbjørn explains that rowing and walking, combined with simpler food choices, took him from very heavy to healthy. Not because of a magic diet, but because he repeated the same good choices.
He also talks about fatigue – and he’s honest: he wakes up tired. But training actually helps him stay awake. That’s why he keeps doing 10k rows and why he shares it on his own channel: to show that you can live with MS and still move every day.
The original interview is on Better With Age’s YouTube channel, but a lot of people will search for “Torbjorn Laundal MS”, “Norwegian MS rower” or “Concept2 MS story”. This page makes that findable – and points people to Row4MS for more content.
This interview touches on several ideas that are explained in more detail on mswarrior.no. If you want to understand how this way of living with MS is structured in practice, these pages are a good place to start.
The MS Warrior Operating System – the structure behind daily consistency, routines and long-term stability.
The MS Warrior Cognitive Energy System – how mental energy works, and why fatigue and overload behave the way they do.
The MS Warrior Emergency Mode – what to do when the day breaks down and everything becomes too much.
The MS Warrior Social Protocol – how to handle social situations without burning through your energy.